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Sita Sings the Blues; or why music licensing stifles creativity

Monday, March 9th, 2009

Sita Sings The Blues

Sita Sings The Blues is a wonderful film mixing a Sanskirt ancient epic with great 1920’s music and incredible animation. Nina Paley spent 3 years doing this I think partly autobiographical animation – in parts incredibly breathtaking, laugh-out-loud funny, charming, and moving.

So can you see it? I mean those 1920’s songs must be out of copyright, right? Until very recently, no:

I really recommend all of you watch the above video – the history and situation of music licensing aka ’sync rights’ is in the dark ages, and confusing especially for stuff which has lapsed mechanical copyrights – ie. you can copy it, put it in your iPod, even create compilations of it and sell them for small amounts – but put them in a movie? No, you’ll get charged 15-20,000 dollars for something where everyone is now long dead, even if you’re a non-profit, or not planning to make any money off it, or even have to play $500 dollars per song JUST to show it at a festival! Does that sound like a cartel to you?

I mean in this day and age the whole ‘we have to pay money upfront’ just seems stupid, and rather like blackmail in this era of micropayments, royalties and subscriptions. I think artists should get paid if something commercially takes off, yes – but in the areas where it doesn’t make money I cannot see how it can harm – in fact it eventually harms the artist and their families because they get less exposure and less royalties because people avoid their music. It’s really protection money.

Well Nina Paley has not only fought this, she has taken out a $50k loan (she beat them down from 220k!!!!) to put this film out, and as well as the DVD she has distributed ‘promotional copies’ online under a Creative Common license – so you can watch it, download it, remix it:


Google video is rather low res – a higher res but non-embeddable version can be seen here at thirteen.org or download in other formats here.

You can donate to her here – I recommend if you do enjoy her film and support her fight, give her a few dollars – because I think it’s a beautiful film (even Roger Ebert is a fan) and worthy of support, and her points about ’self-censorship’ over copyright, even supposedly long-dead ones, of music is being internalised now in schools and by artists, everyone is running scared over culture they should partly own – and also because of the alternate funding and distribution model which will eventually be the norm, but at the moment is seen as somehow lesser.

As an artist I totally understand the need to ‘create’ something, and think about the consequences later, or not let them affect your work – because that mindset destroys everything and does let the corporate side win. So we need people like Nina who are willing to fight back and fight for their work – because the 1984 mindset that you should only do what is legally or monetarially sanctioned is not only destructive, it doesn’t allow for the fact people do change the world all on their own.

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RC 178: Tim and Kirk Show – Whatever Happened to Baby Jade?

Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009

Tim and Kirk (Gilbert and George) 2009 by Tim Baker

Kirk comes back from popping out to the shops, only 2 years late…

We talk about The Curse of Glen Cambell, how my DJ program predicts our IQs, Rude shipping forecasts and Lewis’s butt, rip-off band names, 1986, bounce baby bounce baby bounce, Hovis 2: The Revenge on DVD and play some cheesy reggae, silly tunes and some cool stuff and some not so cool stuff…

Do you want a cornetto? And what IS the Colour of Max Clifford? (73Mb, 102 mins)

  • …2 years later…
  • Fleet Foxes – White Winter Hymnal
  • The Spirit of Morph
  • Kerry Katatonia
  • The Curse of Glen Campbell
  • Mobile Phone Subliminals
  • Sopwith Camel – Hello Hello (from MILK)
  • Noisettes – Wild Young Hearts
  • Not the Tim that does the Podcast
  • Cake Recalcitrance
  • Black Kids – I’ve Underestimated My Charm (Again)
  • Sparks – Now that I Own the BBC
  • Tempo IQ
  • Black Lips, Alison Keys, Steadman
  • Attack of the 50ft Atomic Penguin Cafe Orchestra
  • 1986 sucked
  • Claire and Friends – It’s ‘Orrible Being In Love When You’re 8 1/2
  • Monie Love – It’s a Shame
  • P-break
  • 1986: The Manual
  • Mike ‘Pancake’ Smith
  • You’re My Recession
  • Wedding Present – Give My Love to Kevin
  • Spike Jones – Black and Blue Danube
  • Kirsty MacColl – Theres a Guy Works Down The Chip-shop Swears He’s Elvis
  • Kirsty and the Replicants
  • Bounce music
  • Cheeky Blakk – Bitch Get Off Me
  • Sissy Nobby – I Wish I Could
  • Blade Runner: The Final Final Cut
  • Hovis 2: The Revenge
  • Bob and Marcia – Young, Gifted and Black
  • Cheesy reggae link
  • Piglets – Johnny Reggae
  • Rude Shipping Forecast
  • Butt of Lewis, Inspector Morose
  • Pete and the Pirates – Mr Understanding
  • Specials AKA – (What I Like Most About You Is Your) Girlfriend
  • Allergic to brackets
  • Simpson’s digits
  • Chicago – If You Leave Me Now
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Neon Sex People gets pulled off YouTube wrongly?

Sunday, January 18th, 2009

Neon Sex People video is the latest victim of the spat between Warners and YouTube – it has been pulled from YouTube. Big deal, it happens etc (although for the record this is the first time for me).

The weird thing the eagle eyed might have spotted though – unless there’s some backscene dealing or selling of back catalogue I don’t know about, there isn’t any WMG content in the video?

Break it down:

Depeche Mode ‘People are People’ – MUTE (EMI)
Latour’s People are Still Having Sex – Polydor (Universal UMG)
Neon Neon – Lex Records which is supposed to be independent.

I’m scratching my head about this…Stupid YouTube, wondering whether mentioning it might get my other videos pulled or whether it’s worth fighting. Probably not if you read their dispute procedure:

Under certain circumstances, you may dispute the copyright claim from WMG. These may be any of the following:

* the content is mistakenly identified and is actually completely your original creation;
* you believe that your use does not infringe copyright (e.g. it is fair use under US law);
* you are actually licensed by the owner to use this content.

Hmm can’t fulfill the first one totally (although I’ve not been told it’s a problem either) but it’s weird YouTube are wrongly tagging videos as having Warners music when they don’t.

Has anyone successfully disputed these? I know YouTube has a deal with Universal, Sony and EMI that videos with their content get licensed, so it shouldn’t be an instant ‘no’ – but I think they’ve got it wrong in this case. Having them poke around my YouTube account might cause more aggro though.

Thankfully I uploaded it to Facebook and Myspace – so it’s still available here:

Neon Sex People (DM vs Neon Neon vs Latour) mashup vid

EDIT: Managed to find out more info – it’s People are People which it’s claiming is Warners – news to me, Depeche Mode are signed to Mute it looks like it was issued in Japan on Warners (nowhere else), which is spurious at best as the rest of the world was EMI or other record companies – just block it in Japan then – that doesn’t mean they own the rights to it for the rest of the world, esp. when EMI who controls the other areas including here in the UK DOES have a deal with YouTube. It’s a minefield.

Or did WMG buy the Depeche Mode back catalogue? If so a lot of DM bootlegs are going to get pulled? I doubt that since DM are signed to EMI still…who knows….

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Podcull

Saturday, September 13th, 2008

I’ve culled several podcasts I don’t listen to anymore. seem to be dead or podfaded off my PodSquid and ITunes…I’m running out of diskspace and I won’t ever have the time to listen to these…apologies if you, as I know quite a few of you read this or listen to RC, are one of those whose link has suddenly gone.

TBH I listen to podcasts less and less now…so it makes sense to stop downloading the ones I don’t have time for and reduce it to the core ones I listen to.

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Video Podcast #7: Childhood’s End Pt 5 – Goodbye

Monday, August 18th, 2008


Goodbye from him and it’s goodbye from me – to my room, the philosophy bench, the Garfield posters, to the evil anglepoise lamps, the brandy butter stains, and my childhood.

Video Podcast version (MP4 – 58Mb)

Incidental, coincidental, and purely mental music used:
The Knife – Marble House (PTR remix)
Dubstar – Stars

Sad beret - by Kirk Kirk sepia - by Tim
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